the 10!!

There is a great discussion going on in the Boston lair that started with a post I made about picking up the 10. I want to share it with you guys and email me your thoughts! MAYSONPUA@GMAIL.COM

So I want to hear your thoughts on picking up a genuine 10.

Let me first preface this by saying people's rating systems are DRASTICALLY different but universally we can agree within a point that a girl is a 10.

Second let me say that I feel as though in the community we have been infused with ideas from Love Systems and other companies that the principal for picking up a 10 is the same as a 6 just more negs. This is something I am against whole heartedly. I feel that anytime you lower a persons value because your value is lower then hers, then you are just being a value taker.


Specifically, what do you do different when dealing with a 10?
What strategies do you employ?
Be honest, do you even bother with 10s?
If you have ever closed a 10 what did u do the same and or different.

Here are my thoughts... What are your thoughts?
First off let get on the same page with a couple of things.

1) When you see a girl you process your value compared to hers.

Basically this means that when you see a girl you are sizing her up and then placing a value upon her based in a number of qualities, mainly attributed with appearance. This looks based value system continues until conversation is made and then it scales back a small about but as guys we are still driven by appearances.

For the women they too judge appearance but instead of the symmetrical qualities that we as guys look for they are much more concerned with the sub communications and if the guy is taking care of himself. If the guy looks like he took longer to get ready then the woman did then many times they will be turned off. If he looked like he walked out of the forest and hasn’t shaved or showered we all know that, that is a deal breaker as well. The main thing that a woman is looking for upon approach is the subtitle cues WAY MORE then what you are actually saying.

2) Value is a magnet it is dragging around your perception all the time.

This aspect is true for guys and for girls, that PERCIEVED value is a filter in which we view the individual. The reason that I capitalized perceived is because perception often times equates with deception. Remember back about 8 years ago when the magic eyes pictures were all the craze? Basically, it was a picture that upon staring at it for sometime you would see a 3d image. At first all you saw was a scrambled picture with nothing in it, but once you finally got it you could see the actual picture inside it. The first perception was that there was nothing there, upon closer inspection we realize that there was something there and we were deceived at first.

Value works just like the 3d image.

3) This game is about value

To get the girls of exceptional quality one must display value in a way that is congruent with who they are. What I mean by this is since girls respond to value the way we respond to a beautiful girl in a mini-skirt, we must display value in a way that is congruent with who we are. We are not all club owners, promoters, bar tenders and well connected so you must start to display the type of value that is more long term. This brings us to our 4th point.

4) Women think more long term when it comes to value.

Women are constantly thinking about where this will go and what could happen down the road. To display the value that most 10s look for, (and again most 10s are not your average run of the mill club rat, these are the girls who have looks, brains and ambition) you must project your value in a long term setting. Being goal driven in your career and life is something that these rare types of girls will truly be attracted to. This displays a mastery over your sense of self and even biblical texts agree in the book of Proverbs that a people without a vision perish. What this sub communicates about you is that you have a vision for the future and she could share in the fruition of that vision, this excites and stimulates her.

5) Tips, tactics and more

I can tell you all with humility and honesty that I have never closed a 10. I know that in this community we tend to have a chip on our shoulder that closing women makes you better at this game and in some ways, “cooler” among your peers. The truth of the matter is I work as a dating coach, have worked with many people across the US, worked with major pick up companies and through all that I STILL fail. What makes me succeed where others give up is my passion not to wrack up the most lays but to leave women better then I found them. This principal if giving value is ironically something that goes against the grain of much of the mainstream community ideology. We are taught to neg (lower a woman’s value) we are taught to DHV (demonstrate higher value) and all in attempts to finally get her home and have sex. Sure we all want to have sex but the irony is that the more you make a girl feel that she has value beyond replication she is instinctively drawn to you as a moth is drawn to a flame.

To get the 10 takes a mastery of the right combination of value and elusiveness. You must stay just out of her range NOT out of her league. At the end of the day getting the 10 is much more about value, both giving and receiving it rather then negs, backhanded compliments or displaying HIGHER value.